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[COMIC] The 44th President of the United States
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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2008, 09:00:06 EST »

Frankly, what scares me more is that there's no check or balance in Congress to make sure that he doesn't go too far.

What, did Obama send his personal armed goon squad to make sure that all of the senators and representatives vote according to his wishes? Or did he secretly implant all of them with mind control devices? Or are they suddenly going to agree with each of his proposals, no matter how outlandish it might be?

I don't think so. Congress isn't a collection of vote-bots.
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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2008, 09:26:53 EST »

Frankly, what scares me more is that there's no check or balance in Congress to make sure that he doesn't go too far.

What, did Obama send his personal armed goon squad to make sure that all of the senators and representatives vote according to his wishes? Or did he secretly implant all of them with mind control devices? Or are they suddenly going to agree with each of his proposals, no matter how outlandish it might be?

I don't think so. Congress isn't a collection of vote-bots.

Umm nah it just CC probably thinks Obama and Bindin are going to ignore the rules because Bush and Chaney did.
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2008, 05:50:41 EST »

Socialism = commonwealth. You're living in a socialist state already(albeit weakly so), and are all the better for it. Socialism isn't communism. Socialism is using tax money for social wellfare, public schools, and subsidising medical care.

The USA is also the only place in the world where Obama would be considered left of center, the leader of the main party in the right-wing coalition ruling our country currently recently said "I looked through both candidates policies during the election, and I can't criticise Obama's policies, they're the same as ours", he also liked McCain's stand on free trade.
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2008, 06:07:37 EST »

Socialism = commonwealth. You're living in a socialist state already(albeit weakly so), and are all the better for it. Socialism isn't communism. Socialism is using tax money for social wellfare, public schools, and subsidising medical care.

That though is such a weak definition of socialism as to make it meaningless.  What you describe as Social Democrat policies.  Socialism means nationalization of industry too.
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« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2008, 08:22:15 EST »

Then the republicans are more socialist than Obama. :p

I haven't heard an iota of him wanting to nationalize industri, while the republicans just nationalized some banks(instead of say, just guaranteed all the customers savings, and legislating that loans from banks that go under should continue to abide by the contract as if all was normal, so people don't suddenly lose their houses).

Then again, socialism for the big companies and capitalism for everyone else... isn't that fascism?
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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2008, 09:10:37 EST »

Then the republicans are more socialist than Obama. :p

I haven't heard an iota of him wanting to nationalize industri, while the republicans just nationalized some banks(instead of say, just guaranteed all the customers savings, and legislating that loans from banks that go under should continue to abide by the contract as if all was normal, so people don't suddenly lose their houses).
I wouldn't deny that the republicans have socialist leanings, they certainly do.  However, under the same situation don't you think the democrats may have nationalized the banks too?

Then again, socialism for the big companies and capitalism for everyone else... isn't that fascism?
It's certainly a policy that "fascist" governments have followed from time to time.  It is also one that socialist governments have followed.  The recent nationalization of banks began with the nationalization of two banks in the UK by the Labour government.  Past labour governments in the UK have done the same sort of thing, nationalizing the car industry when it got into trouble, for example.
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