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« on: November 05, 2008, 14:18:55 EST »

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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 14:24:30 EST »

Again, I congratulate Obama and his supporters for their victory. He wasn't my ideal choice, but I wish him well.

But I'm still reserving judgement until he's in office and has enacted some policies. Then we can see if he really is about change or if it was all just hype.
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 14:34:45 EST »

The first thing he's got to do is pick his cabinet.  Should be interesting to see who he grabs.  Here's the list of positions:
Attorney General, State, Treasury, Defense Interior, Agriculture, Commerce, Labor, Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, Transportation, Energy, Education, Veteran's Affairs, and Homeland Security.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 14:52:33 EST »

The first thing he's got to do is pick his cabinet.  Should be interesting to see who he grabs.  Here's the list of positions:
Attorney General, State, Treasury, Defense Interior, Agriculture, Commerce, Labor, Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, Transportation, Energy, Education, Veteran's Affairs, and Homeland Security.

you missed one the need to be find, and most pundits think should be filled first, Chief of Staff.

And a lot of those positions are shaded by the fact some of the candidates are also candidates to replace Obama or Binden in their Senate seats.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008, 15:21:12 EST »

It was good to wake up this morning.


If anyone knows me, then they'll know that those are not words that I say very often.
But this morning, when the radio alarm went off, the very first thing I heard was the woman who's taken over the breakfast show saying

"Barack Obama is the next President of the United States"

I have waited eight years to have a wake up call as good as that one.

It has been a long eight years.

Eight years of unremitting horror at the blood-soaked mess that passed for foreign policy.
Eight years wasted fiddling while the social fabric of a great nation burned
Eight years in which the steel fist of the police state grew relentlessly tighter.

Well, we've woken up.
Only to discover that it's no longer 1999, and there's eight years of work to do before we can even think of moving forward from where we should be.

Good morning America.
Break's over.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 16:13:03 EST »

Indeed.  The political outlook is good, for the first time since I've been old enough to have a political outlook.

On the downside, I blame the election excitement for me yesterday taking a hard fall into concrete, catching most of the impact with my knee.  Can barely walk now, even with a crutch.
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008, 16:16:51 EST »

On the downside, I blame the election excitement for me yesterday taking a hard fall into concrete, catching most of the impact with my knee.  Can barely walk now, even with a crutch.
missing the days when that would result in sucking breaths (or at wors a small cry) then just walked off?
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2008, 17:01:31 EST »

I echo purplecat's sentiments. That was the best news I've woken up to... well, ever.
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2008, 18:17:19 EST »

On the downside, I blame the election excitement for me yesterday taking a hard fall into concrete, catching most of the impact with my knee.  Can barely walk now, even with a crutch.
missing the days when that would result in sucking breaths (or at wors a small cry) then just walked off?
I'm 19.

To be specific, I ran full speed into the ground knee first, then slid on the ground a good several feet while on that knee before finally landing my upper body, which took minimal damage (that was my objective).  My knee, on the other hand, seems to have reproduced via mitosis.
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2008, 00:32:24 EST »

The real question is which Obama are we going to see?  Are we going to see the moderate who was the one who showed himself when he got the Democratic nomination, or are we going to see the liberal leftist who wants to push this country towards socialism who showed himself to get the Democratic nomination?

The real question, though, is that am I the only one who's not thrilled by this?
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2008, 01:16:48 EST »

Yes.  I'll admit I'd have preferred someone other than Obama, but after 8 years of Republicans running this country into the ground in every conceivable way, anything other than another loony warhawk like McCain was tolerable.
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2008, 01:19:17 EST »

Just remember this, everyone: Obama is not a wild radical communist, and he's not a miracle-worker Messiah. He's only human.
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2008, 05:44:10 EST »

The real question is which Obama are we going to see?  Are we going to see the moderate who was the one who showed himself when he got the Democratic nomination, or are we going to see the liberal leftist who wants to push this country towards socialism who showed himself to get the Democratic nomination?

The real question, though, is that am I the only one who's not thrilled by this?

Liberalism and socialism are not the same thing. Seriously, that's no better than me saying that conservatism is the same thing as fascism.

And, personally, I hope the side of Obama we see is his liberal side.
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2008, 08:42:34 EST »

Yes, I know that socialism and liberalism aren't the same thing per say, but some of his ideas that he espoused, especially during his campaign to get the Democrat nomination.  For example, see his ideas about mandatory health insurance for everybody, or his words of "spreading the wealth".  Those are socialist ideals.

Frankly, what scares me more is that there's no check or balance in Congress to make sure that he doesn't go too far.  It'll be interesting to see what happens in the next 2 years while Obama has a majority in Congress (complete with what appears to be a filibuster proof Senate), and how the American people will react in the 2010 elections.
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2008, 08:55:14 EST »

Yes, I know that socialism and liberalism aren't the same thing per say...

There is no per se about it. Liberal philosophy is not exclusively left-wing, and being left-wing is not enough to be socialist. If what you think Obama stands for is socialism, then the United States is the only developed country on Earth that is not socialist.

...but some of his ideas that he espoused, especially during his campaign to get the Democrat nomination.

Democratic nomination. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt this time. But for future reference, deliberately shortening it to "Democrat nomination", "Democrat Party", "Democrat candidate", etc. is a little disrespectful.

For example, see his ideas about mandatory health insurance for everybody, or his words of "spreading the wealth".  Those are socialist ideals.

That's where they originated, sure. But today those are simply left-of-centre values. Socialism implies something considerably stronger than the things Obama proposes, which are things the United States needs and almost every other civilized country tries to provide.

Frankly, what scares me more is that there's no check or balance in Congress to make sure that he doesn't go too far.  It'll be interesting to see what happens in the next 2 years while Obama has a majority in Congress (complete with what appears to be a filibuster proof Senate), and how the American people will react in the 2010 elections.

Then I truly hope you were pleased by the mid-term election in 2006. But somehow, I doubt it. It seems it's okay for conservatives to dominate all three branches of government, but when it's the liberals' turn... MY GOD! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

I look forward to seeing what Obama can accomplish with a compliant Congress.
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