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« on: October 31, 2008, 13:01:01 EDT »

This year to honour E. Gary Gygax, Gen Con Live Game Auction hosted their traditional charity auction with the target charity being Christian Children's Fund, Gary's favorite charity. When present with a check of $17,398 the refused it, due to the fact that the money was raised partly by the sales of Dungeons and Dragons materials.

The money was instead happily received by Fisher House Foundation.

http://www.livegameauctions.com/CharityAuction.jsp
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2008, 17:10:54 EDT »

Looking a gift horse in the mouth, much?
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2008, 18:27:27 EST »

To be fair, they'd probably like early black and white GvE D&D, but as it stands now the game is not only has options for making pacts, but hey, it's also unquestionably hard left wing politically with huge authoritarian overtones.

Most christians are okay with the authoritarian part, but probably not hard left and incresingly well done theology (geek note:  Eberron has an entire book on faith and theology, with only thinly veiled referances to early jeudo-christian dogma)
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2008, 18:37:51 EST »

To be fair, they'd probably like early black and white GvE D&D, but as it stands now the game is not only has options for making pacts, but hey, it's also unquestionably hard left wing politically with huge authoritarian overtones.

Most christians are okay with the authoritarian part, but probably not hard left and incresingly well done theology (geek note:  Eberron has an entire book on faith and theology, with only thinly veiled referances to early jeudo-christian dogma)

Nothing "Fair" about that. because that never existed. Before the current Alignment system is was Lawful vs Chaotic, not Good vs Evil. and Did not get "pacts" until very recently. and always been portayed as FICTION

Also Christian is HARD is left. in its tenets (its the do as i said not do as i do that is hard right Wink ).  Also this also country to christian teaching, where Jesus associated with whores and collectors
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2008, 11:39:50 EST »

Now watch this spiral out of control...

First, early D&D (Chainmail et all) required that the party be moral, and pacts entered D&D with AD&D.  Remember, fiction is still influential, and many Christains are uncomfertable with Potter for similar reasons.

Now, onto theology...

No, the majority of Christain scripture is very, very right wing.  People like to trot out a few examples that show Jesus was left wing (which he was) but the scriptures themselves are hard authoritarian and absolutist, with a lot of rage and hate in them, let's break it down.

Old Testie-  Furious polytheistic god becomes a monotheism, demands blood sacrifices and believs in slavery and racial purity.

Luke-  Gospel of the poor, left wing hippy stuff Wink

Matthew-  Gospel of purity and bloodline, and revenge.  Murder abounds here, and Jesus has no real connection to the lower classes, though anti-capitalistic there is a crapload of wrath in here.

Mark-  Gospel of divinity, it's pretty much apolitical, though it is pro anti-authoritarianism in material realmns, it also appeals to a divine dictator.  At it's core it's borderline gnostic, which is actually a libertarian concept more then anything else.

John-  Doesn't make any sense, really, Jesus has little reason to commit earthly resurrections, and aside from that it actually harkens back to the old testie concept of Memra v. Shekina, it primarily an argument piece rather then a depiction of the life of Jesus.

Saul of Tarsus-  Gah, he was a grade A douchebag.

Revelations-  The fires that burn those who oppose us, the primary joy of those in heaven is to see those in hell suffer.

So, if you take the entire bible literally (as most american baptists do), you have 2.5 books in the whole set which are not right wing, and if you look for things which are actually left wing, you have one gospel.

Jesus may have been left wing, but his biographers were not, and, you betcha, the ancient Jewish texts are grade A hate for everyone who isn't us.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2008, 14:35:01 EST »

Um the key here is right wing his not defined by authoritarianism Cool, the left wing has it's share, and the right wing even have non-authoritarians
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2008, 11:15:48 EST »

I guess that's why there are two axis, but I don't think it's two much of a stretch to say a non-representive totalitarianism is more right then left.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2008, 18:55:43 EST »

I guess that's why there are two axis, but I don't think it's two much of a stretch to say a non-representive totalitarianism is more right then left.

It tends towards the right, certainly. But it's not a requirement. The USSR, for instance, ended up that way, and still had a fairly left bent.
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2008, 22:28:56 EST »

It'd be a rough go to convince me the same God who slaughtered the egyptian firstborns and who "hardened the heart of the pharoah" essentially forcing him into a situation where he could be punished is especially liberal or progressive.

Don't get me wrong, big fan of the new testie in a lot of ways, but in it's entirety (if you believe they are the same god, which they are not) the god of the bible is pretty right wing.
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