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« on: October 14, 2008, 11:51:24 EDT »

Today is the big vote--Canada's, that is. The race is too close to call.

The polls close at 7pm EST (Newfoundland), 7:30 (Maritimes and Labrador), 9:30 (Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, Northwest Territories and Nunavut) and 10pm (British Columbia and Yukon).

The competitors: Stephen Harper (Conservative), Stéphane Dion (Liberal), Gilles Duceppe (Bloc Québécois), Jack Layton (New Democrat) and Elizabeth May (Green).

The results from the last two elections:

2006
Conservative 124
Liberal 103
BQ 51
NDP 29
Independant 1
TOTAL 308

2004
Liberal 135
Conservative 99
BQ 54
NDP 19
Independant 1
TOTAL 308
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2008, 22:26:47 EDT »

NEWFOUNDLAND
The Conservatives have been shut out! 1 NDP MP (Jack Harris, St John's East) and six Liberals (Siobhan Coady, St. John's South - Mount Pearl; Scott Andrews, Avalon; Judy Foote, Random - Burin - St. George's; Scott Simms, Bonavista - Gander - Grand Falls - Windsor; Gerry Byrne, Humber - St. Barbe - Baie Verte; Todd Russell, Labrador) were elected.

PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND
Gail Shea, Egmont: C
Shawn Murray, Charlottetown: L
Lawrence Macaulay, Cardigan: L
Wayne Easter, Malpeque: L

NOVA SCOTIA
Lib 5 (Roger Cuzner, Mark Eyking, Scott Brison, Geoff regan, Michael Savage)
Con 3 (Gerald Keddy, Peter Mackay, Greg Kerr)
NDP 2 (Peter Stoffer, Megan Leslie)
Bill Casey Ind., Cumberland - Colchester - Musquodoboit Valley

NEW BRUNSWICK
Con 5 (Greg Thompson, Rob Moore, Keith Ashfield, Mike Allen, Tilly O'Neill-Gordon)
Lib 3 (Jean-Claude D'Amours, Dominic Leblanc, Brian Murphy)
NDP 1 (Yvon Godin, Acadie - Bathurst)
Conservative Rodney Weston leading in Saint John
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2008, 22:51:15 EDT »

10:50 pm
Conservatives elected or leading in 146 ridings
Liberals e/l 77
Bloc e/l 48
NDP e/l 32
Ind. e/l 3
2 seats have not yet reported
TOTAL 308
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2008, 22:58:03 EDT »

I have one thing to say to Stephan Dion and the Liberal Party: Ha ha!
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2008, 23:14:33 EDT »

All polls reporting, 11:10 pm. Last one for the night:

Conservatives e/l 144
Libs e/l 75
BQ e/l 50
NDP e/l 36
Ind e/l 3
TOTAL 308
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2008, 09:46:44 EDT »

Final results:
   Conservative   Liberal   Bloc   NDP   Ind.   TOTAL
Nfld.        0                 6   -   1   0       7
N.S.        3                 5   -   2   1       11
P.E.I.        1                 3   -   0   0       4
N.B.            6                 3   -   1   0       10
Que.       10                 13   50   1   1       75
Ont.       51                 38   -   17   0       106
Man.       9                 1   -   4   0       14
Sask.       13                 1   -   0   0       14
Alta.       27                 0   -   1   0       28
B.C.       22                 5   -   9   0       36
Yuk.       0                 1   -   0   0       1
N.W.T.       0                 0   -   1   0       1
Nun.       1                 0   -   0   0       1
TOTAL       143                 76   50   37   2       308
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2008, 11:04:51 EDT »

I'm somewhat gladdened that the Conservatives didn't sweep Alberta completely, but still disappointed to see the province still hasn't caught on...
Still, Rahim Jaffer lost... I guess he'll have plenty of time to make his own radio appearances now. [/incredibly dated political reference]
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2008, 11:30:44 EDT »

Pretty much what I hoped for, our boy lost (due to Dion's immense unpopularity here), but now we can take Dion into an alley and get rid of that dead weight and have an election in two years or so.

That being said, Kyoto is now dead for both major parties, as no liberal will go near upping enviromental regulations after that kind of shitkicking.
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2008, 15:20:52 EDT »

I'm somewhat gladdened that the Conservatives didn't sweep Alberta completely, but still disappointed to see the province still hasn't caught on...
Still, Rahim Jaffer lost... I guess he'll have plenty of time to make his own radio appearances now. [/incredibly dated political reference]

Thank you for reminding me of that Rick Mercer skit "Will the Real Rahim Jaffer Please Stand Up?"

As for the Conservative near-sweep of Alberta, the province has caught on to the fact that the Liberal Party is a pack of thieves who'd rob us (and Saskatchewan) blind in a minute and the NDP are a loony bin full of nutters that don't know how to run a Tim Hortons, much less a country. As for the Greens, they don't really account for much until the day Canada switches to proportional representation.
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2008, 20:11:52 EDT »

If Pierre Trudeau's sons were Beatles, Justin would be Paul and Sacha would be John. Michel could also be John, because they're both dead.

Good Liberals:
Justin (He's like Ben Mulroney de-doucheified)
Ruby Dhalla (hott!)
the astronaut (they gots a f***ing astronaut)
Irwin Cotler (human rights scholar, Jewish community leader, Ping-pong champion)
The brainiac guys (Steph D., Mike I., Bob R., John McC.)

Good Conservatives:
Peter Mackay (the dashing athlete)
Lawrence Cannon (he's an OK kinda fella)
Helena Guergis (also hott)
John Baird (if y'likes 'em feisty)
Tony Clement (he'll fix your computer and talk about Spider-Man)
Vic Toews (he looks like Hulk Hogan)
Stockwell Day (your mom wants him)
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2008, 23:56:49 EDT »

If Pierre Trudeau's sons were Beatles, Justin would be Paul and Sacha would be John. Michel could also be John, because they're both dead.

Michel can be George. Because George is also dead.
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2008, 15:23:10 EDT »

Final results:
ConservativeLiberalBlocNDPInd.TOTAL
Nfld.06-107
N.S.35-2111
P.E.I.13-004
N.B.63-1010
Que.1013501175
Ont.5138-170106
Man.91-4014
Sask.131-0014
Alta.270-1028
B.C.225-9036
Yuk.01-001
N.W.T.00-101
Nun.10-001
TOTAL1437650372308
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2008, 23:03:44 EDT »

Mmm... tasty tables.

Remind me; Liberal and NDP form a coalition from time to time?
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2008, 00:16:45 EDT »

Mmm... tasty tables.

Remind me; Liberal and NDP form a coalition from time to time?

Don't the Conservatives have first crack at forming a coalition?
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2008, 08:07:46 EDT »

Coalition governments are extremely rare in Canada. At the federal level, it has
only happened twice (once in the 1800s, once during WWI).  One of the reasons
is the limited number of parties (four sitting).  While it is remotely possible that
the Liberals and NDP could form a coalition (it has happened at the provincial level),
it is not even remotely possible that the current conservative party would consider
a coalition with any sitting party. Since they are only 12 seats away from a majority,
they don't really need to. Also given the cost of an election, most of the parties
are deep in debt, so for the first year, no party  is likely to force an election.

I'm not sure what the Canadian electorate would make of a coalition. In general
they have punished the parties involved at the next election in the recent past
at the provincial level. The advent of TV and mass marketing has made the
party "brand" an integral part of identity of a candidate. Our close proximity
to the US, and the limited number of viable parties has produced clear
separations in identity between the parties (if not so much clear differences
in policy).

Second, seats(NDP + Liberal) < seats(Conservative), so such a coalition would
be unstable anyway.

Minor nitpick:
Most models based on the British model, the party with the most seats
is given first chance to form a government. This may or may not lead to
a coalition.
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