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« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2008, 22:09:32 EDT »

Ed's a tough old buzzard. I think it would more likely be Sheila holding Peter McKay's balls (not that he ever uses them....)
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« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2008, 00:25:52 EDT »

Like she'd have a chance, he'd curl up in a fetal position and someone would just start kicking him, hell, probaby Harper.

Ed might not go down if you tore off an arm, but he's the only guy with any stomach currently brawling in the NDP.  Too bad I disagree with him on everything, as he's probably the most intellectually consistent of the lot.  You know Dion would scream like a child and wet himself, I suspect Rae or Iggy wold gut him muttering "How did I lose to you?".

Now I can't get the image of Duceppe with a switchblade out of my mind.  I always wanted him o pull one on Martin and scream "C'mon fatso"
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« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2008, 21:49:23 EDT »

I always pictured Duceppe as Bugs Bunny, hiding behind a tree, as Daffy (Harper) and Elmer Fudd (Dion) fight with each other due to the bamboozling Bugs laid on them.
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« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2008, 00:44:45 EDT »

Also; "Canadian separatists" and "conservative"? I can't make that fit together in my head, but that's just me...

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the "separatists unite" concept myself... I can't quite place my finger on what is wrong with that phrase... Tongue

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« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2008, 02:27:26 EDT »

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the "separatists unite" concept myself... I can't quite place my finger on what is wrong with that phrase... Tongue

The same thing that caused the international group of xenophobes from getting representation in the EU due to in-fighting preventing it getting representatives together from fifteen nations.
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« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2008, 00:57:08 EDT »

Oh, and do come to IRC sometime, Heq.  It could really use more frequenters.

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« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2008, 01:43:50 EDT »

Wait, we have IRC?

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« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2008, 13:21:34 EDT »

Any man or woman who bows to another makes themselves lesser, and no man or woman shuld bow to the Queen or her representatives, especially when one looks at the english empire and all the evil it has caused.

Firstly, that depends on what you mean by "lesser". Do you mean "physically and inherently inferior", or "deferential to persons of social or practical authority"? The former, of course, is reprehensible; but the latter is an important part of societal cohesion, be that authority the Queen, the Pope, the Mayor, or the chairman of General Electric.

Secondly, remember that the Prime Minister, and our elected Cabinet, and the House of Commons, and even the Senate, are agents of the Crown. The Constitution clearly states they govern on its behalf. To turn one's back on the Crown is to turn one's back on the very foundation of our nation's model of democracy as we know it.

Lastly, in the oaths of loyalty administered in this country, one swears allegiance to "the Queen, and her heirs and successors". It does not require your approval of the past indescretions of the Crown or its agents, no matter how heinous. Loyalty to the Crown is loyalty to its present and future, not its past.

In conclusion, I know full well that many Republicans, Anarchists and Anti-Monarchists shal look upon our Monarchy, and ask, "Why?" But I, inclining to stasis, and pleased with my country, shall ask instead "Why not?"

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.
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« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2008, 22:04:38 EDT »

Secondly, remember that the Prime Minister, and our elected Cabinet, and the House of Commons, and even the Senate, are agents of the Crown. The Constitution clearly states they govern on its behalf. To turn one's back on the Crown is to turn one's back on the very foundation of our nation's model of democracy as we know it.

Actually, the Westminster system under which you and I live was designed to put a limit on the power of the monarch, and its most egregious excesses which were killing England slowly. That said, the Westminster system would survive very aptly without a head-of-state-by-birthright.

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« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2008, 00:00:39 EDT »

Actually, the Westminster system under which you and I live was designed to put a limit on the power of the monarch

Exactly. The system is symbiotic: The legislature saves the Crown from its excesses, and the Crown gives the legislature the nearly unbridled authority to govern.

That said, the Westminster system would survive very aptly without a head-of-state-by-birthright.

By birthright, maybe not. But we do need a head of state. Perhaps a system of adoption of suitable rulers would do, like the early emperors of Rome - a system which produced such greats as Caesar Augustus and Marcus Aurelius.
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« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2008, 04:01:40 EDT »

Both of whom brought immense suffering upon their people's in their vain quests for personal glory.  Though Octavious at least smartened up later in life, still I don't consider either of their imperial reigns to have been a "win" for the amjority of people.  They were just much, much better then most other historical despots.
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