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Andrei
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« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2007, 02:04:55 EDT »

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Out of morbid curiosity, why was Chemical Garden banned?
I've checked out his latest messages and, unless something was altogether removed (i.e. not even kept in 'waste disposal'), he hasn't been any more of a brat than he usually is...

I wonder why he's been banned too.
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« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2007, 07:46:55 EDT »

You just don't have any mechanism to weed out the mentally ill candidates, like Dubya and Reagan.

No country has such a mechanism.  Which is why everyone should be watching their government, constantly and carefully, from a rocking chair on the porch, cradling a shotgun and laughing, laughing!

Hmm, kind of a tangent there.
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« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2007, 07:51:29 EDT »

You just don't have any mechanism to weed out the mentally ill candidates, like Dubya and Reagan.

No country has such a mechanism.  Which is why everyone should be watching their government, constantly and carefully, from a rocking chair on the porch, cradling a shotgun and laughing, laughing!

Hmm, kind of a tangent there.

I somehow find your change of avatar appropriate, given the direction that went.

That said, what you describe *is* such a mechanism - not as effective a one as it might be, but nothing's perfect.
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« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2007, 07:57:54 EDT »

You just don't have any mechanism to weed out the mentally ill candidates, like Dubya and Reagan.

No country has such a mechanism.  Which is why everyone should be watching their government, constantly and carefully, from a rocking chair on the porch, cradling a shotgun and laughing, laughing!

Hmm, kind of a tangent there.

I somehow find your change of avatar appropriate, given the direction that went.

That said, what you describe *is* such a mechanism - not as effective a one as it might be, but nothing's perfect.

Unfortunately, the default position for most people is to trust the government.  Trust it with authority, power, money, information, and managing the people's affairs.  My default position is to restrict government's access to all those things.  When they start using the money I gave them last week the way I want them to, they can have more.  For the moment, they spend it on proverbial candy and comic books.
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« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2007, 16:48:36 EDT »

I would /love/ my government to be spending taxes on candy and comic books, as long as they share with the class.
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« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2007, 18:45:08 EDT »

Unfortunately, the default position for most people is to trust the government.  Trust it with authority, power, money, information, and managing the people's affairs.
I'd rather say that the default position for most people is to rely on journalists to keep an eye on the mess. That is, after all, what journalists are supposed to do.
Yeah, it's a sad and scary world.
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« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2007, 00:31:01 EDT »

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Out of morbid curiosity, why was Chemical Garden banned?
I've checked out his latest messages and, unless something was altogether removed (i.e. not even kept in 'waste disposal'), he hasn't been any more of a brat than he usually is...

I wonder why he's been banned too.

Chemical Garden's banning has been under discussion for quite some time by the staff members, and we finally decided to ban him.  The reason is that, while he hadn't specifically violated any rules, we felt he was an extreme case of violating the spirit of the site rules, and the site would be better off without him here.  Many of his posts were either outright malicious, or close to it, and after weighing the pros and cons, we decided it'd be best to ban him.

This isn't the ideal way to handle things, and part of the problem is that our forum rules are very vague.  We are in the process of revising them, but it's not an easy process, because we have to strike a very delicate balance between allowing free self-expression, and maintaining order.  When we do get a working draft, it will be presented to the membership here for approval/discussion, before being implemented.

There was a suggestion presented earlier for a "police blotter" to display disciplinary actions taken in a public setting.  I think this is a great idea, and while we haven't really had a chance to discuss it, we'll see what we can do.
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