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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2007, 19:09:58 EDT »

I do not think that is necessarily the case, although it's worth noting that Thomas Jefferson considered such a notion.

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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2007, 13:16:58 EDT »

I've met many acedemics without a lick of leadership or common sense. 
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2007, 13:19:45 EDT »

I've met many acedemics without a lick of leadership or common sense. 

Common sense is rarely sensible. Lacking common sense is not a bad thing, since common sense is quite often blatantly false.
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2007, 14:11:34 EDT »

I've met many acedemics without a lick of leadership or common sense. 

How exactly does this differ from politicians?
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2007, 14:37:40 EDT »

I've met many acedemics without a lick of leadership or common sense. 

How exactly does this differ from politicians?

I don't think he's saying they have either; he's just saying that JUST being from acedemia does not give you any qualities towards leadership or pragmaticism (which is what I think he means by common sense). After all, look at some of our acedemically achieving people here, and some of the fairy tale things they say (but, I can back my fairy tale up with math!).
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2007, 17:28:30 EDT »

And just what makes a spoiled, incompetent son of an oil baron so all-fired qualified to be leader of the US?
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2007, 17:41:51 EDT »

And just what makes a spoiled, incompetent son of an oil baron so all-fired qualified to be leader of the US?

I don't think he said that either. I'm not saying he might not come back and say it later, but I don't think anything he's said has alluded to that.
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2007, 17:50:36 EDT »

And just what makes a spoiled, incompetent son of an oil baron so all-fired qualified to be leader of the US?

Nothing, it would seem.
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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2007, 18:24:18 EDT »

You know what would be a novel idea? A US Executive branch that didn't consist entirely of millionaires.
Poor people can't be president.  Are they suppose to fund their campaign with food stamps? 
In other words, the system is prejudiced. Why shouldn't a poor person be president, just because they don't have millions of dollars? The typical American isn't a millionaire, and shouldn't the president be just a typical American?
Actually, though it's not widely known, there exists an optional public funding system in the USA, whithin certain limits.
In France, (I'll talk of what I know best) there's an automatic public refunding system for candidates that get at least 5% of votes, and the campaign budgets are restricted by law. The system existing in the States is similar, but is optional : no public funding -> no budget boundaries.
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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2007, 19:39:56 EDT »

And just what makes a spoiled, incompetent son of an oil baron so all-fired qualified to be leader of the US?


Not much except I guess name recognition. 


However the thing is in America even if you have little money that doesn't mean you can't start small with local elections and work your way up through the state and eventually get enough support to go to a national office.  You might not be able to decide one day that you want to be president and be able to afford to run, but if you are good you can get there eventually.
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« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2007, 20:01:11 EDT »

And just what makes a spoiled, incompetent son of an oil baron so all-fired qualified to be leader of the US?


Not much except I guess name recognition. 


However the thing is in America even if you have little money that doesn't mean you can't start small with local elections and work your way up through the state and eventually get enough support to go to a national office.  You might not be able to decide one day that you want to be president and be able to afford to run, but if you are good you can get there eventually.

You just don't have any mechanism to weed out the mentally ill candidates, like Dubya and Reagan.
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« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2007, 00:49:22 EDT »

Speaking of mentally ill, my family was driving somewhere. We had the radio on. They were having a discussion about Alberto Gonzales's resignation. They put in a sound clip from Bush's speech on the matter...

"He had his good name drug through the [pregnant pause, as if trying to recall what word comes next] ... mud."

We all burst out laughing.

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One other thing. The professor of the politics class I'm currently taking in college mentioned some things about Bush the first day of class.
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1. In preparation for Bush's 2000 campaign, Karl Rove had him take CHAINSAW LESSONS. (One strategy in making him look more like an average Texan, since Bush is really a rich east coast kid.)

2. Part of Bush's smear campaign was to make Kerry look like a sissy frenchie nancy boy. The irony of this is...

        -Kerry killed men with his bare hands in Vietnam.

        -Bush was a cheerleader in high school. (Damn, this would make a great political satire strip. If only I had an ounce of drawing talent.)
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« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2007, 16:30:15 EDT »

2. Part of Bush's smear campaign was to make Kerry look like a sissy frenchie nancy boy. The irony of this is...

        -Kerry killed men with his bare hands in Vietnam.

        -Bush was a cheerleader in high school. (Damn, this would make a great political satire strip. If only I had an ounce of drawing talent.)

Gah! Now I have an image of Bush in a miniskirt in my brain. Owie!!
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« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2007, 21:23:51 EDT »

Out of morbid curiosity, why was Chemical Garden banned?
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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2007, 06:13:19 EDT »

o0o0o0o, that's new.
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