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 on: August 06, 2010, 16:49:44 EDT 
Started by DavidLeoThomas - Last post by DavidLeoThomas
Hey everyone.  I realize that the forum is basically dead, but just wanted to note that I'm back in the Bay Area for the time being.  If anyone wants to meet up and reminisce about the glory days over a beer or the like, lemme know.

 on: October 21, 2009, 03:25:39 EDT 
Started by Natasha Lockhart - Last post by Natasha Lockhart
The site is now available at

Technically, nothing's moved, but I added a script to make sure everyone gets the message between now and when the domain expires/is sold.

 on: October 19, 2009, 10:58:45 EDT 
Started by Natasha Lockhart - Last post by Natasha Lockhart
Because this site is pretty much dead, I won't be renewing its domain next spring, I have better things to spend money on besides domain renewal for a dead site.  Thus, at some point next year, will no longer point to this site.

However, because I'm an archivist at heart, the site will continue to exist, accessible via a Lupinia subdomain.  Details will be posted here when the new address has propogated through worldwide DNS.

 on: October 07, 2009, 14:44:26 EDT 
Started by Richard K Niner - Last post by D.Whito
this looks like rather light card, what do you think?

I think the Forest fight is the best draw.  Dont get me wrong, Ill be watching the show just doesnt look like one of their better cards.

 on: October 03, 2009, 23:02:18 EDT 
Started by Himatsu - Last post by Medivh
I'm very surprised.</sarcasm>

 on: October 03, 2009, 14:06:37 EDT 
Started by Himatsu - Last post by Himatsu

The Deseret News is a Utah newspaper directed towards Mormon readership. It is, in a way, the sectarian version of the Salt Lake Tribune, sharing the same advertising handler and providing discounts for ad spots placed in both papers.

But the Deseret News is careful to shield its readers from advertising that could offend Mormon sensibilities. And this week it has rejected just such an ad, an image with a message so outrageous that it was sure to offend. (Salt Lake Tribune)

 on: September 26, 2009, 14:05:11 EDT 
Started by DavidLeoThomas - Last post by Ihlosi
Do you know how Switzerland addresses this problem?

Insurers are forced to offer basic health insurance to everyone without asking questions. What the basic insurance covers is also regulated.

Switzerland also has price controls on medical services. In my opionion that's the only way of making sure patients aren't billed for made-up numbers.

Then again, Switzerland has the second-highest per-capita healthcare expenses in the world (guess who's number one).

 on: September 24, 2009, 14:01:44 EDT 
Started by wodan46 - Last post by wodan46
Any thoughts about the G20?  Will it make any changes more significant than me having class canceled because of it?

 on: September 24, 2009, 11:15:11 EDT 
Started by DavidLeoThomas - Last post by DavidLeoThomas
The Swiss would disagree with you. Switzerland's health care system is entirely private, though regulated very heavily. Essentially, the "we're jerks to old people" plan should, if Obamacare follows the Swiss model, be illegal, and cheap and easy to contest.

Note that I said I've not seen any proposals that deal with the issue - while the Swiss may have regulations that deal effectively with it, I don't think anyone is pushing those here.  Granted, I've not read any of the draft bills in their entirety, but I've been otherwise watching the debate closely and I've not heard anyone talking about this issue which I deem a central problem with our system.  Do you know how Switzerland addresses this problem?

As for banning the "we're jerks to old people" plan, this can raise care to some bare minimum, but is regulatorily heavy and means competition will direct innovation at how a company can better get around the regulations rather than at how they can offer better care.

 on: September 24, 2009, 01:39:10 EDT 
Started by DavidLeoThomas - Last post by Medivh
This is why I avoided that term, using "universal healthcare" to mean what you're meaning by "public health insurance". Switzerland has no public option (AFAIK) and multiple payers, but is still universal.

Why I think that single payer is a better idea than multiple payers is basically because of the same reason that DLT thinks competition is a bad idea in healthcare.

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